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MLC: a very large school with an incredible range of options that draws students from all over Melbourne. It has its fair chair of "rough" elements however the school is so big that is seems most girls can find their own "group". Some students seem to get lost in the "machine" that is MLC, but in the main a very good school. Have a very wide range of students - special needs, deaf programs etc. Laursiston: the "white loaf" version of school: every slice is consistent in size and type, but lacks much flavour or variety. Anyone with an independent character would struggle here.

The full year away at Howqua is far too long and creates problems for many students being away from their families for a whole year at a critical age year 9. For those who "fit the mould" it is a good school that does achieve good academic results. Ruyton: The previous Head stripped all the character out of the school and it is now a marks factory using scholarship students and fast tracking to hot house students and get top results - although they don't always do so!

Extremely "social" but not in a good way - lots of aspirational parents who are trying to buy their way into society. Very cliquey with bullying problems at some levels.. New Head shows much more promise - watch this space! Very good sports program esp cross country but also across the board- a school that punches above its weight in sport. Talk of many parents leaving in the senior years and crossing to other schools esp MLC and Carey.

Melbourne Girls Grammar: Hit "rock bottom" a few years ago, difficult transition with a new head who has tried to bring in many changes but with some difficulty.

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On the road to recovery now - odd middle school set up, Years 5 to 8 - seems like an incompatible age range. Korowa: was a fabulous school but has run down and become more mediocre over the past few years. St Catherine's: Has been through a difficult era but the current head has brought it round. However, she is well past retirement age - indeed she HAD retired from her previous school. Wonder what the succession plan is? Very tightly tied to the Toorak social scene: parents not rolling in dough may find themselves feeling like paupers.

Nice school spirit with lots of participation. Trinity: terrific boy's school, with great mix of teaching and values education. A "modern" boys school of a very high calibre. Parents there are always very happy to recommend Trinity. St Kevins: on the up and up, has gone from being the "poor cousin" to a thriving school community with good sports and academic results Xavier: cannot seem to leave its bully-boy past behind and reinvent itself for the modern era.

Further on independent schools, without prejudice I hope or any science, this is generally how I perceive Melbourne's "top" senior schools are tiered in terms of prestige and status if this is what matters to you University High, St. Kevins, whatever school is no guarantee your child will succeed in life per se. Try tuition while yachting around the globe as a family.

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Probably too difficult for most parents. Maybe all could learn from the experience. The treadmill turns them into Doctors and Lawyers. How dull our Jack and Jill He was also extremely musical - he loved the school.

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I think it is a bit unique in terms of being an "inner city" high school in a part of Melbourne that would attract a lot of slightly left of centre "intellectuals and creatives" with money in the pocket. So without any direct experience I have never been to the school the "word" is good on Universtiy High.

PS: I agree that the choice of school is no guarantee of success. But having gone through the experience of having a child at a school that didn't "fit" well for them, and then finding a school that does fit, I will say that choosing a school that fits your child and your family helps them enjoy school and be confident in who they are.

The school is very definitely on the rise and is going great guns academically and in sport.


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I believe their values program is good too. So, I think you have two great, but quite different options. Some advice, for what it's worth: - Location: the two schools are in different parts of Melbourne. Being close to school is not essential but I would always choose a school a bit closer than one far away. This is not just about practicality but also about friendships - it's easier for your son to develop friendships if he lives in the same part of the city as his classmates.

We have gone from single sex girls to co-ed in Grade 8 and it has been fantastic. If you don't live in that "world" you may find it isn't a great fit for your family, and visa versa with University High. If you son is very sporting and this is important to him and you, you'll find that an independent school will offer opportunities that few govt schools can. Skevs is in the APS network and competes against all the big name boys and co-ed schools in a range of sports, including rowing.

Hope this helps! Awesome information FHT! I am looking to get my girl into a private school, she's only three years old now but I hear you need to get in early. Melbournefan - if you're looking for a girls' school you are in a much better position than co-ed or boys: at three years you would already be in strife with a boy! Yes, you do need to get in early, however because there are so many girls schools there is generally much greater scope.

If you plan for junior school entry however you will need to get her down within a few years - for senior school entry you'd want to have her down by at least 6 or 7 yrs. I would suggest you enrol in three schools minimum: you will receive newsletters and communication from those schools in the years following your enrolment which will help you get to know the school and can inform your decision. The high profile boys schools definitely do want a big deposit which you don't get back!

If you were thinking of a co-ed school, get in ASAP. I know people who didn't get in for next year's Grade 7 intake after having their applications lodged before their child's first birthday :. Dear oh dear. I would love to know the basis of that given they Brighton haven't held a candle to St Kevin's for many years by virtually any criteria.


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I did like your girls summary though. Very happy to defer to your judgement on that one Walster! I don't know much about the Bayside schools, so scrap Brighton from the top of the tree list! St Kevins is definitely on the rise - while once a "poorer cousin" to Xavier in the Catholic School hierarchy, they are shooting up the tree on a number of bases: more contemporary approach to educating boys; strong line with anti-bullying; excellent results; great sports outcomes.

One thing of interest to note on Skevs - not sure if this has happened this year, but up until now Skevs adopted a Year 7 entry policy of interview and offer. Unlike other schools the "order on the waiting list' was not the key criteria.

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This actually meant that Skevs could take the pick of the crop of boys who had missed out on getting into Scotch as well as other schools , so they have successfully recruited top notch kids. Having said that they haven't made the error of some girls schools in seeking out academic high flyers only, they seem to have achieved a good mix. Walster - so, for the record, your assessment of the Bayside schools would be a great addition to the resource here! I think you will find people choosing it over Scotch and other schools now as they perform just as well academicaly, better sporting wise and charge 10k less, so not so sure they pick up the ones who missed out on other schools.

I think you wil find ST kevs is actually harder to get into. What does a "more contempory approach to educating boys" mean? I don't have a great knowledge of bayside schools in general-sorry! How do uo know so much? Scotch is a school with long family connections and a large proportion of those who send their sends their went their themselves, as did their fathers.

I am not implying for one second that Skevs is in any way inferior - I have praised them considerably above as you will see.

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For some people the perceived standing and traditions of Scotch will outweigh any other choice and be their first option. Thus, demand for schools such as Scotch and MGS will inevitably outweigh that to all other schools. This means understanding how boys learn and what sort of values creates "good men". MGS, Trinity and Skevs stand out as schools that are adopting such an approach.

Does this make me qualified to speak? Not sure but just hoping my advice might help someone You soudn like you are more than qualified. You have since repeated that they "on the way up" which obviously indicates they are not there yet but on the way. By what criteria? They have been in the top three APS schools for VCE results for the past 7 years 1st three times and have won countless sporting titles in that time and charge 10k lesss approx This is all subjective of course and i am not sure you are completely up to speed with their skevs enrolment policies or indeed to actual length of the waiting lists.

I repeat, your analysis of the girls schools and their respective cultures , was very informative. I think all this healthy debate just shows how damm hard it is to make a decision and how subjective this process is.